In terms of Indigenous Americas ancestry, the algorithm used by Ancestry still inflates "Taino" ancestry in Puerto Ricans. The overall "Puerto Rico" estimate remained at 9%, but the "Bolivia & Peru" decreased slightly to a fraction of 1%. The appearance of "Central America" was the new aspect of this update. Like the case of indigenous peoples of the Andes, we assume this is capturing some of the component parts of the genetic makeup of the "Tainos." The Central America region as defined by Ancestry seems to emphasize El Salvador, Honduras, and Nicaragua and is possibly related to the "Taino" through ancient pathways or migrations from Central America into South America (or vice-versa). It would be very useful for Ancestry to tell us which indigenous groups from Central and South America they're using here.
Showing posts with label Central America. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Central America. Show all posts
Friday, October 10, 2025
Tuesday, June 4, 2024
Dugu Song
Although we remain quite ignorant of the history and culture of the Garifuna peoples, it is astonishing and intriguing how this "Canto Dugu" resembles our Haitian ritual music and chanting. Rhythmically less complex, one can see, perhaps, the "Carib" or Indian influences in Garifuna music and tradition. That said, Garifuna Dugu undoubtedly has African features that unite it, at least somewhat, with the better-known Vodou, Santeria and other Afro-Caribbean traditions.
Thursday, November 16, 2023
Maritime Interactions in the Greater Caribbean
We are still obsessed with the question of interactions between the Isthmo-Colombian region and the Caribbean in the pre-Columbian past. While much more needs to be uncovered before we can speak confidently about the subject, a number of finds by archaeologists and the probable import of guanin from Colombia suggest long-distance trade and interactions.
Sunday, March 26, 2023
Popol Vuh
Our ongoing fascination with Mesoamerican civilizations might actually force us to read this, which is explained quite well for the layman in this podcast. Maya civilization is undoubtedly one of the most interesting ones in the Americas. Unfortunately, to properly delve into the history of this part of the world would require a shift away from our current Africa obsession. The best way to connect the two is probably via the Caribbean and the history of African-descended peoples in Mexico and Central America.
Tuesday, August 2, 2016
Political Economy of Mass Media
A fascinating 1989 talk by Chomsky in Madison, WI. Chomsky discusses the manufacturing of consent and relates it to the American interventions in Central America during the 1980s. Fascinating stuff and very thought-provoking, as one would expect from Chomsky. I saw him speak in 2010 and find this 1989 talk more humorous and intriguing than the award ceremony I attended. Moreover, Chomsky's sense of humor was present in the earlier lectures than what I saw, although I am naturally glad I had an opportunity to see him speak.
Tuesday, November 27, 2012
Defining the Caribbean
A friend sent this article in French to me about defining or categorizing the Caribbean. As one would expect, some of the islanders interviewed on defining the Caribbean had differing views. From a cursory look at the differing maps representing Trinidadian, Cuban, Jamaican and Guadeloupean perspectives on the confines of the Caribbean, the Hispanophone and Francophone speakers were more likley to include coastal Central America and northern South America. Trinidadians did include coastal Venezuela, but not Colombia. Jamaicans only included Guyana and Suriname with small portions of Central America (Panama, etc.) as part of the Caribbean. Guadeloupeans, on the other hand, included a much broader definition of the Caribbean that resembled academic definitions of the "Greater Caribbean" region, including coastal South America, all of Central America, and southern Florida. Besides the Guadeloupeean pan-Caribbean view, Cuban definitions of the Caribbean were second place in terms of broadly defining the region. Cubans included southern Florida, Central America, the 'traditional' Caribbean, and northern South America's coast. Interestingly, southern Florida was not considered part of the Caribbean by Trinidadians, perhaps reflecting immigration patterns (Jamaican and Cuban immigrants have established communities in Florida). Also of note is the broad Caribbean region described by Guadeloupe considers the Gulf Coast of the US, primarily Louisiana and New Orleans, as Caribbean. This may reflect a shared francophone heritage or perhaps a broad definition of Caribbean or Antillean identity rooted in the creolite movement of Guadeloupe and Martinique. Regardless, it's fascinating how different Caribbean students, representing English-speaking "West Indians," Spanish-speaking Cubans, and francophone speakers define their region of the world. For clarification, I shall post those images of the Caribbean below:
This map depicts the 'traditional' Caribbean, consisting of only the islands (Greater and Lesser Antilles) and the French, Dutch, and British possessions in Central and South America (Belize, Suriname, Guyana, French Guiana).
What I have translated as the "Greater Caribbean" includes Mexico, all of Central America, and all of northern South America. This corresponds more with the actual history of exchange, migration, and cultural/racial miscegenation that has taken place throughout this region, from the Gulf Coast, Florida, and the Antilles to Central and South America. Another commonality of the region is the shared history of the Atlantic Slave Trade, European conquest and colonialism, American imperialism, and the use of mostly Romance languages. Although most of Mexico and Central America boast no substantial phenotypically 'black' populations outside of Panama and certain provinces of states like Costa Rica, the African presence can be seen in the colonial period and some of the music, especially the use of marimbas among indigenous peoples in the area. Colombia and Venezuela must be included because of the important demographic and cultural impact of the slave trade and Afro-descendants, too.
Cuban perceptions of the Caribbean here. It includes the Antilles as the core region and peripherally Central America and the northern coast of South America.
Students from Guadeloupe have the broadest definition of Caribbean, corresponding well with the aforementioned "Greater Caribbean" map. One could arguably push for inclusion of coastal Ecuador, the coastal lowlands of Peru, and perhaps northeastern Brazil as extensions of the Caribbean due to similarly influential Afro-descendants, although that goes beyond the Caribbean Sea.
Jamaicans view the Caribbean as essentially the "West Indies" with Belize, Guyana, Suriname, French Guiana, and, marginally, southern Florida and Panama. Venezuela and northern Colombia are also present.
Trinidadians interestingly exclude Colombia but consider the entirety of Venezuela as "Caribbean," perhaps due to the close proximity of the nations and a history of migration and influences. However, they exclude Florida while every other group of Caribbean students included Florida. Without additional research, my only explanation for that trend is a reflection of the lack of large Trinidadian diasporic communities in Florida.
Again, the main pattern for defining "Caribbean" for many of these students is based on a large West Indian/Caribbean diasporic presence (in the case of Central American nations like Panama or Florida) and a high proportion of African-descended peoples. It would be fascinating to get the racial demographics of the Cuban students, and to include Haitians, Dominicans, and Puerto Ricans, to get a fuller picture of how Antilleans define themselves in relation to each other.
The following is my initial response to the article in an email to a friend. Defining the Caribbean, like any other region or form of categorization, relies on oppositional binary thinking that does not reflect the reality or porous borders. Models of understanding the world are only models, not necessarily accurate depictions of the world as we live it. The following email to a friend is a brief reflection on that and the limitations of defining a "Caribbean" and distinguishing it from "Latin America" or the Americas.
Interesting. I never thought of Mexico as part of the Greater Caribbean. I guess in some senses it makes sense for the coastal regions of Mexico and Central America to be considered "Caribbean," even if the population of African descent is small. I know Veracruz in Mexico was one a very important port of entry for slave trading in Mexico, although the current population is not phenotypically "African" like Haiti or Jamaica. I know son jarocho music has African as well as indigenous influences, probably because it arose in the Veracruz region.
This map depicts the 'traditional' Caribbean, consisting of only the islands (Greater and Lesser Antilles) and the French, Dutch, and British possessions in Central and South America (Belize, Suriname, Guyana, French Guiana).
What I have translated as the "Greater Caribbean" includes Mexico, all of Central America, and all of northern South America. This corresponds more with the actual history of exchange, migration, and cultural/racial miscegenation that has taken place throughout this region, from the Gulf Coast, Florida, and the Antilles to Central and South America. Another commonality of the region is the shared history of the Atlantic Slave Trade, European conquest and colonialism, American imperialism, and the use of mostly Romance languages. Although most of Mexico and Central America boast no substantial phenotypically 'black' populations outside of Panama and certain provinces of states like Costa Rica, the African presence can be seen in the colonial period and some of the music, especially the use of marimbas among indigenous peoples in the area. Colombia and Venezuela must be included because of the important demographic and cultural impact of the slave trade and Afro-descendants, too.
Cuban perceptions of the Caribbean here. It includes the Antilles as the core region and peripherally Central America and the northern coast of South America.
Jamaicans view the Caribbean as essentially the "West Indies" with Belize, Guyana, Suriname, French Guiana, and, marginally, southern Florida and Panama. Venezuela and northern Colombia are also present.
Trinidadians interestingly exclude Colombia but consider the entirety of Venezuela as "Caribbean," perhaps due to the close proximity of the nations and a history of migration and influences. However, they exclude Florida while every other group of Caribbean students included Florida. Without additional research, my only explanation for that trend is a reflection of the lack of large Trinidadian diasporic communities in Florida.
Again, the main pattern for defining "Caribbean" for many of these students is based on a large West Indian/Caribbean diasporic presence (in the case of Central American nations like Panama or Florida) and a high proportion of African-descended peoples. It would be fascinating to get the racial demographics of the Cuban students, and to include Haitians, Dominicans, and Puerto Ricans, to get a fuller picture of how Antilleans define themselves in relation to each other.
The following is my initial response to the article in an email to a friend. Defining the Caribbean, like any other region or form of categorization, relies on oppositional binary thinking that does not reflect the reality or porous borders. Models of understanding the world are only models, not necessarily accurate depictions of the world as we live it. The following email to a friend is a brief reflection on that and the limitations of defining a "Caribbean" and distinguishing it from "Latin America" or the Americas.
Interesting. I never thought of Mexico as part of the Greater Caribbean. I guess in some senses it makes sense for the coastal regions of Mexico and Central America to be considered "Caribbean," even if the population of African descent is small. I know Veracruz in Mexico was one a very important port of entry for slave trading in Mexico, although the current population is not phenotypically "African" like Haiti or Jamaica. I know son jarocho music has African as well as indigenous influences, probably because it arose in the Veracruz region.
For
Central America, Belize and the West Indian descendants of laborers who
came to places like Guatemala, Panama, and Costa Rica (province of
Limon is very 'black') are definitely "Caribbean." Belize in British
colonial days was known as "British Honduras" and consisted of a
heterogeneous population, including various peoples of African descent. I
think there is a Garifuna presence as well in terms, the Garifuna being
descendants of African runaway slaves and indigenous peoples of the
Caribbean who were gradually resettled in Central America by the
British. I think some descendants of Saint Dominguan slaves were also
settled in Central America when the region was still under Spanish
colonial rule (look up the black auxiliaries of Spanish royalism in the
early years of the Haitian Revolution. Unlike Toussaint Louverture, they
remained loyal to fighting under the Spanish name against France and
Britain. Perceived as a threat to the social order in Santo Domingo and
Cuba, some were resettled in Florida and Central America.
Of course, northern South American countries like
Suriname, French Guiana, and Guyana are always considered "Caribbean"
and excluded from "Latin America." And from the little research I've
conducted in Colombian, Venezuelan, and Brazilian history and race
relations, the coastal regions of those aforementioned nations are
"Caribbean," too. The largely African-descended populations, presence of
obvious African-derived cultures (music, religion (Candomble, samba,
cumbia, champeta, palenquero Spanish in Colombia, Cartagena and
Barranquilla as slave ports for colonial Nueva Granada, etc.)) and the
racialized geography makes it quite clear. The Chocho, or Pacific coast
of Colombia, is also majority Afro-descended, ignored, and part of the
racialized regionalism of Colombia. Southwestern Colombia and the
Esmeraldas coast of Ecuador is also mostly Afro-descended. If one wanted
to expand the definition of "Caribbean" even further, the coastal
lowlands of Peru with its African-descended populations or southeastern
Brazil and Minas Gerais for its African-descended populations.
I guess at that point you might as well just call it
all "Afro-Latin America," which shows how problematic these labels are
since they're projections by scholars and outsiders on the peoples of
this hemisphere. I guess I would realistically define Caribbean as the
islands and coastal regions of states that border the Caribbean Sea and
its environs. I would include coastal Colombia, Venezuela, Panama, parts
of Costa Rica and Guatemala, and Belize as well as northeastern Brazil
(Bahia, maybe Pernambuco?) because of the presence of significant or
majority Afro-descended populations that are thoroughly 'mixed'
culturally and/or 'racially.' I guess Patrick Chamoiseau and other
Martinican writers as well as some negritude poets and theorists have
tried to define Caribbean as rooted in 'blackness' or "Creolite," the
latter referencing the mixed/creole heritage of the Caribbean as
African, European, indigenous, and Asian. I suppose someone like Aime
Cesaire would define "Caribbean" in a manner that emphasizes the African
component whereas Patrick Chamoiseau and other Francophone writers
would emphasize Caribbean as a fusion of the various peoples who
inhabit/ed the region. Clearly, the latter definition of "Caribbean"
sounds like the "raza cosmica" or mestizaje nationalism of many Latin
American nations, which emphasize racial mixture as national identity.
I guess it's difficult to really 'define' the
Caribbean then. People have unsurprisingly criticized the excesses of
negritude and the weaknesses of mestizaje and Creolite in masking racial
oppression or maintaining the marginalization of certain identities,
such as the African component in Colombia, Mexico, Peru, and other
countries. In the end, the strict separation of Latin America and the
"Caribbean" based on linguistic differenes does not hold, and it's often
applied randomly. Haiti or francophone islands like Martinique, for
instance, are often excluded from "Latin America" but they speak Romance
languages like Spanish and Portuguese. As for anglophone islands like
Jamaica or Trinidad, many of those peoples have migrated and worked in
the Spanish Caribbean or Panama. Furthermore, peoples often spoke
various languages so many older Trinidadians spoke French or a Creole
because of shifting European colonial authorities. Regardless, these
ideological divides between Latin America and the Caribbean clearly
don't reflect reality. And I neglected to mention New Orleans and Miami.
New Orleans was essentially a Caribbean society well into the 19th
century, with a racial structure that mirrored Saint Domingue or
colonial Haiti, not to mention it was also briefly a Spanish colonial
city. Miami and parts of Florida have also been longstanding "Caribbean"
regions, since African-descended slaves and free people of color have
always been part of Spanish Florida's somewhat freer racial relations.
Indeed, from what I can recall, African-American slaves from the US
often fled to Spanish Florida before the US annexation and many
African-Americans joined Seminole and other indigenous communities.
I'm not sure why I wrote this very long, rambling
email, but thanks for sharing that article. It's always interesting to
see how folks from the Caribbean define themselves. I remember my
mother, who never identified as Latina or Latin America, telling me as a
young child that Haiti is "in South America." I remember white
Americans trying to tell me that I should "identify as Latino" because
Haiti is in Latin America, but I don't think they're really aware of the
social and racial dynamics of Haitians in Cuba, Dominican Republic, or
elsewhere.
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